1 00:00:01,870 --> 00:00:03,290 - [Giada] All right, well, thank you Tiffany. 2 00:00:03,290 --> 00:00:06,570 And I really wanna thank ExoPAG for inviting me 3 00:00:06,570 --> 00:00:07,880 to speak here on behalf of one 4 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:09,800 of these planetary mission concepts. 5 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:11,250 I think it's really wonderful 6 00:00:11,250 --> 00:00:15,450 that there's increased planetary solar system 7 00:00:15,450 --> 00:00:17,980 and Exoplanets synergies going on. 8 00:00:17,980 --> 00:00:20,330 So I'm Giada Arney from NASA Goddard. 9 00:00:20,330 --> 00:00:23,420 I'm a member of the Exoplanet community, 10 00:00:23,420 --> 00:00:26,510 but I'm also a member of The Venus Community, 11 00:00:26,510 --> 00:00:30,204 and I'm honored to be here today wearing my Venus hat, 12 00:00:30,204 --> 00:00:32,770 speaking on behalf of the DAVINCI team, 13 00:00:32,770 --> 00:00:35,240 which is one of the four discovery concepts 14 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:37,320 that was recently selected. 15 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,630 The goal of DAVINCI is to explore both 16 00:00:40,630 --> 00:00:42,770 the past and present state of Venus. 17 00:00:42,770 --> 00:00:44,313 Next slide please. 18 00:00:48,380 --> 00:00:50,710 So there's a lot of reasons why I think Venus 19 00:00:50,710 --> 00:00:53,130 is so compelling to think about 20 00:00:53,130 --> 00:00:55,010 in the context of Exoplanets. 21 00:00:55,010 --> 00:00:57,250 One of those reasons is the fact that we think Venus 22 00:00:57,250 --> 00:00:59,450 like Exoplanets are likely to be common. 23 00:00:59,450 --> 00:01:00,720 Another reason is that, 24 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,520 not only are they likely to be common, 25 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,690 but we think that the James Webb Space Telescope 26 00:01:04,690 --> 00:01:06,970 is going to be biased towards detecting 27 00:01:06,970 --> 00:01:08,500 these hot terrestrial planets 28 00:01:08,500 --> 00:01:11,380 over more temperate cooler terrestrial planets, 29 00:01:11,380 --> 00:01:13,070 just because they're on shorter orbits, 30 00:01:13,070 --> 00:01:15,294 so they're gonna transit more frequently. 31 00:01:15,294 --> 00:01:19,220 But what draws me in particular to a planet like Venus, 32 00:01:19,220 --> 00:01:21,150 that even though it's currently 33 00:01:21,150 --> 00:01:23,120 one of the most uninhabitable environments 34 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:24,830 in our solar system. 35 00:01:24,830 --> 00:01:27,880 It may have had oceans in it's distant past, 36 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:29,674 there's chemical evidence in the atmosphere 37 00:01:29,674 --> 00:01:32,500 in the form of the deuterium to hydrogen ratio, 38 00:01:32,500 --> 00:01:35,761 suggesting that Venus may have lost a lot of water 39 00:01:35,761 --> 00:01:38,560 at some undefined time ago. 40 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:39,480 And if that's true, 41 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,830 and if Venus ever truly was habitable, 42 00:01:41,830 --> 00:01:43,870 by studying the full history of Venus, 43 00:01:43,870 --> 00:01:46,330 we can understand the full story of the life 44 00:01:46,330 --> 00:01:49,170 and death of habitability up close and personal 45 00:01:49,170 --> 00:01:52,460 on a world that's right next door in our solar system. 46 00:01:52,460 --> 00:01:54,040 And what's also really interesting about this 47 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:55,920 in the context of Exoplanets, 48 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:57,910 is that there's been recent work. 49 00:01:57,910 --> 00:01:59,030 Mike Wei has done a lot of this 50 00:01:59,030 --> 00:02:01,510 and he's really really cool. 51 00:02:01,510 --> 00:02:04,670 Thinking about how climatic feedbacks 52 00:02:04,670 --> 00:02:07,260 on a slowly rotating planet like Venus 53 00:02:07,260 --> 00:02:09,160 could have enabled its early habitability 54 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,330 in the same way that these same climatic feedbacks 55 00:02:12,330 --> 00:02:14,200 are occurring on slowly rotating, 56 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,570 synchronously rotating planets around M dwarf. 57 00:02:16,570 --> 00:02:19,890 And so by studying and understanding these processes 58 00:02:19,890 --> 00:02:21,820 that may have occurred on early Venus, 59 00:02:21,820 --> 00:02:23,990 we might simultaneously help ourselves 60 00:02:23,990 --> 00:02:26,500 to understand analogous properties 61 00:02:26,500 --> 00:02:31,500 that we might actually observe occurring on Exoplanets. 62 00:02:32,780 --> 00:02:34,373 Next slide, please. 63 00:02:38,570 --> 00:02:39,890 Throws in a bit for me, 64 00:02:39,890 --> 00:02:41,270 but I'm gonna assume hopefully 65 00:02:41,270 --> 00:02:42,770 it's advanced for other folks. 66 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,870 To the DAVINCI mission 67 00:02:46,870 --> 00:02:49,610 is really meant 68 00:02:49,610 --> 00:02:52,440 to address some of these long standing gaps, 69 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,130 We have in Venus research. 70 00:02:54,130 --> 00:02:57,930 It's been decades since we've had a US mission to Venus. 71 00:02:57,930 --> 00:02:59,247 And so we wanna go back there 72 00:02:59,247 --> 00:03:02,830 and we wanna study Venus both from above and from within, 73 00:03:02,830 --> 00:03:04,770 within the atmosphere. 74 00:03:04,770 --> 00:03:08,030 This mission is composed of both an orbital component 75 00:03:08,030 --> 00:03:10,280 and also a descent probe component 76 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,080 that will fall through the atmosphere 77 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,020 over the course of about an hour. 78 00:03:14,020 --> 00:03:14,950 While doing that, 79 00:03:14,950 --> 00:03:17,080 it'll take detailed compositional measurements 80 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,210 of the atmosphere and also look down 81 00:03:19,210 --> 00:03:21,300 at the surface to help us understand 82 00:03:21,300 --> 00:03:23,990 what the surface composition is made out of. 83 00:03:23,990 --> 00:03:25,970 The launch surely, is a notional launch, 84 00:03:25,970 --> 00:03:27,630 is planned for 2026, 85 00:03:27,630 --> 00:03:30,980 and I wanna draw everyone here your attention 86 00:03:30,980 --> 00:03:33,050 to the fact that that would overlap 87 00:03:33,050 --> 00:03:36,530 with JBG's team timeline (laughs), 88 00:03:36,530 --> 00:03:38,370 assuming JBG's team launches next year 89 00:03:38,370 --> 00:03:41,010 and has the notional lifetime 90 00:03:41,010 --> 00:03:42,810 that it's expected to have. 91 00:03:42,810 --> 00:03:46,740 Then while JBG's team might be making observations 92 00:03:46,740 --> 00:03:48,900 of Venus like Exoplanets, 93 00:03:48,900 --> 00:03:52,260 we might have a mission to this Exoplanet 94 00:03:52,260 --> 00:03:55,903 in our backyard right here in the form of DAVINCI at Venus. 95 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:58,220 So here's some of the questions 96 00:03:58,220 --> 00:04:00,400 we would like to have answered. 97 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:01,440 They include things like, 98 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,070 what is the origin and evolution 99 00:04:03,070 --> 00:04:04,710 of the Venus atmosphere? 100 00:04:04,710 --> 00:04:07,430 How and why is Venus different or similar 101 00:04:07,430 --> 00:04:10,770 to Earth and Mars and also to analog Exoplanets. 102 00:04:10,770 --> 00:04:13,690 This question of this early ocean did it actually exist? 103 00:04:13,690 --> 00:04:16,330 And if it did exist, how much water was there? 104 00:04:16,330 --> 00:04:17,810 How long did it last? 105 00:04:17,810 --> 00:04:20,030 When did that water go? 106 00:04:20,030 --> 00:04:22,680 We have questions we have, you know, 107 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,340 unknowns about the atmosphere, 108 00:04:24,340 --> 00:04:27,450 what is the detailed composition of the atmosphere, 109 00:04:27,450 --> 00:04:30,450 we wanna go to Venus so that we can actually understand 110 00:04:30,450 --> 00:04:31,830 that atmospheric composition 111 00:04:31,830 --> 00:04:33,890 throughout the entire column, 112 00:04:33,890 --> 00:04:35,270 including below the clouds, 113 00:04:35,270 --> 00:04:38,270 which is quite an inaccessible environment. 114 00:04:38,270 --> 00:04:40,330 And lastly, we want to understand 115 00:04:40,330 --> 00:04:42,940 the origin of these enigmatic service features 116 00:04:42,940 --> 00:04:43,920 that are called tesserae. 117 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,320 So, tesserae are these really interesting, 118 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:52,260 highland highly deformed plateaus on Venus. 119 00:04:52,260 --> 00:04:53,890 And what makes them so fascinating 120 00:04:53,890 --> 00:04:55,613 to a lot of people is the fact that, 121 00:04:55,613 --> 00:04:59,050 tesserae are interpreted by some people 122 00:04:59,050 --> 00:05:02,140 to be older than the surrounding basaltic terrain, 123 00:05:02,140 --> 00:05:03,650 they're also interpreted by some people 124 00:05:03,650 --> 00:05:05,160 to be different in composition 125 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:06,980 than the surrounding terrain. 126 00:05:06,980 --> 00:05:08,360 People have even suggested 127 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,440 that they might be based on emissivity measurements 128 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:12,310 of these things. 129 00:05:12,310 --> 00:05:14,257 That they might be more granitic in composition 130 00:05:14,257 --> 00:05:16,050 and the surrounding basalt, 131 00:05:16,050 --> 00:05:18,760 which has gotten a lot of people excited about them 132 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,980 because granitic landscapes, 133 00:05:21,980 --> 00:05:23,740 at least on earth granites are formed 134 00:05:23,740 --> 00:05:25,410 from continent building processes. 135 00:05:25,410 --> 00:05:28,100 So it's, it's possible we don't know 136 00:05:28,100 --> 00:05:30,644 but it's possible that maybe these surface features 137 00:05:30,644 --> 00:05:33,320 might be relics of a very ancient past, 138 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,250 and so by going there and helping ourselves, you know, 139 00:05:35,250 --> 00:05:36,740 to understand them better, 140 00:05:36,740 --> 00:05:38,105 you might start to unlock the clues 141 00:05:38,105 --> 00:05:41,270 to what exactly happened on Venus in the past. 142 00:05:41,270 --> 00:05:42,883 Next slide please. 143 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,500 Think it might be refreshing slowly for me, 144 00:05:50,500 --> 00:05:52,870 but I'll assume everybody sees the next slide. 145 00:05:52,870 --> 00:05:55,610 So we're going to tesserae region. 146 00:05:55,610 --> 00:05:57,390 The descent probe is going to tesserae region 147 00:05:57,390 --> 00:05:59,160 called Alpha Regio, 148 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,270 which is indicated here on this map of Venus. 149 00:06:01,270 --> 00:06:02,830 And so this again is one 150 00:06:02,830 --> 00:06:04,480 of those interesting tesserae regions 151 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:05,561 that were fascinated by, 152 00:06:05,561 --> 00:06:08,790 because it might be more granitic in composition 153 00:06:08,790 --> 00:06:10,130 compared to the surrounding terrain 154 00:06:10,130 --> 00:06:11,450 and so we wanna go there, 155 00:06:11,450 --> 00:06:14,150 we wanna make detailed compositional 156 00:06:14,150 --> 00:06:18,050 and geological measurements of this interesting site 157 00:06:18,050 --> 00:06:19,510 as we descend to the atmosphere 158 00:06:19,510 --> 00:06:20,840 and also, you know, 159 00:06:20,840 --> 00:06:24,063 make measurements of the atmosphere as we're descending. 160 00:06:25,020 --> 00:06:25,853 Next slide. 161 00:06:30,660 --> 00:06:32,260 I'll assume it's refreshed for others, 162 00:06:32,260 --> 00:06:33,876 I can't see the next slide but, 163 00:06:33,876 --> 00:06:36,580 some of the things that we wanna learn are, 164 00:06:36,580 --> 00:06:38,580 we wanna learn about the noble gases. 165 00:06:38,580 --> 00:06:39,810 The noble gases are interesting 166 00:06:39,810 --> 00:06:41,090 because they're non reactive. 167 00:06:41,090 --> 00:06:43,320 So they will tell us about the full origin 168 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,710 and evolution of this planet, 169 00:06:45,710 --> 00:06:47,130 including gases like Xenon, 170 00:06:47,130 --> 00:06:49,010 which Kevin (indistinct) stands up and talks about 171 00:06:49,010 --> 00:06:52,320 in like every single meeting that I see him talk about. 172 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:53,500 So we're gonna go and we're gonna try 173 00:06:53,500 --> 00:06:57,000 to really nail some of those noble gas abundances. 174 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:59,440 We wanna understand the deuterium to hydrogen ratio, 175 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,373 which people use to understand 176 00:07:02,373 --> 00:07:05,010 the history of water on Venus, 177 00:07:05,010 --> 00:07:07,450 because this deuterium to hydrogen ratio we see 178 00:07:07,450 --> 00:07:09,180 in the atmosphere is interpreted 179 00:07:09,180 --> 00:07:12,531 to be this signal of ancient water loss. 180 00:07:12,531 --> 00:07:13,644 We wanna-- 181 00:07:13,644 --> 00:07:15,400 - [Tiffany] Yeah I'm sorry to jump in. 182 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:16,830 Just you're at the seven minute mark. 183 00:07:16,830 --> 00:07:18,690 So this (indistinct) wrap up. 184 00:07:18,690 --> 00:07:19,523 Yeah, that'd be great. 185 00:07:19,523 --> 00:07:20,870 Thank you. 186 00:07:20,870 --> 00:07:22,570 - [Giada] We wanna understand the surface geology 187 00:07:22,570 --> 00:07:24,530 as I mentioned before, and lastly, 188 00:07:24,530 --> 00:07:26,460 we of course wanna understand the chemistry 189 00:07:26,460 --> 00:07:28,016 and the composition of the atmosphere, 190 00:07:28,016 --> 00:07:29,830 both so we can understand Venus 191 00:07:29,830 --> 00:07:32,720 and so we can apply models of Venus's atmosphere 192 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,884 to Exo Venus analogs. 193 00:07:34,884 --> 00:07:37,570 And the next slide is my last slide, 194 00:07:37,570 --> 00:07:41,230 where I just wanna say Venus is a planet for everybody. 195 00:07:41,230 --> 00:07:42,410 It's an exciting planet. 196 00:07:42,410 --> 00:07:44,708 All four of these discovery, 197 00:07:44,708 --> 00:07:46,963 mission concepts are incredibly exciting. 198 00:07:46,963 --> 00:07:49,290 We have two wonderful mission opportunities 199 00:07:49,290 --> 00:07:51,610 to go to Venus in the form of DAVINCI and VERITAS, 200 00:07:51,610 --> 00:07:52,770 which you heard about earlier. 201 00:07:52,770 --> 00:07:54,500 So Venus is waiting 202 00:07:54,500 --> 00:07:56,950 and I hope you're all excited about it like I am. 203 00:07:56,950 --> 00:07:57,783 Thanks